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Who is Tiffany talking about?
Let me check. what post are you talking about?
- The last coupleshe made a couple post the closer is about Alecia not too sure what the last one is about
and what Andrew commented on the last one
I guess he is talking about how she feels
- she has wanted to talk to Alecia but she won't talk. I still told her she should call you but after the last one she still thinks its all on herShe can't start fixing or progressing if she doesn't make an attempt.
i know its hard though when the other party isn't talking.
haha! I am not going to try to bring up Alecia to you babe its ok hahahaha
I'm not talking about her
- I'm talking about Tiff and meoh I dunno there she thinks that your already against her
- I tried getting her to call last night but Andrews family was there for the nightwell...., anything with me and her is between me and her..., I'm not in the Alecia thing, you all have brought me into it. I have listened to all and given suggestions from where I stand but I can't make anyone DO anything, it's up to each person. If she doesn't reach out or talk to me then it's no one but her own fault for how things are between us. She is torturing herselfand it's up to her to change it if she hates feeling that way. If she doesn't she cannot rightfully blame metrue and I am starting to look at mine the same way
- she doesn't blame you I don't think, she just feels like all is against her
- because of who she is withThats blaming me for her not talking to me. It's a stupid inane excuseI completely understand that part
- like I said Tina and I are no where near an example because we were never close and I was not raised with her, Jr and I on the other hand are and even if we are at odds we still call each other and we have had plenty of arguments and disagreements but I know I can still depend on him and he II don't take stupidity or excuses well....., regardless of what you both THINK goes on with Alecia. If you make excuses to not fix something you complain about instead of just doing, it pisses me off. You don't like it do something. I tell her the same thing but I cannot make her or anyone do anything
- well baby I have done all but go hunt her down which is not a good idea to meBut I still talk to her about any and all other things and don't have that looming over me because like I said it is not MY issue and if no one does anything I have no patience to listen to the complainingrightI am telling you this for you but also for you to pass onto Tiffanyshe only calls when she wants something, she called Gma the other day to see if she would keep her dog for hereveryone calls when they want something
- I'm tired of hearing thatjust like the using Tiffs license thing call or come over just to do it. me too
- that sounds very similar to what Sarah would say about people using people as friendssure doesFriends use it each other for their own benefit whether it is for emotional support, hanging out for distraction, etc.
- and no one really calls anymore just because. Everyone wants something
- Tiff always wants things to. But you use it against Alecia just because your at odds with her and thats not rightnope Tiff wants me to hang out with her alot even just to watch a movie at home
you label her and use it derogatory and that just keeps pushing farther away
- But you say that you can't because of Andrewnope we do it on the days he is workingor when he goes and does stuff with Joeyshe wants you to pay when you go somewhere, out?thats using youLast Saturday it was me and her at the house watching 2 movies. they all do
- I'm tired of hearing all that. Alecia because of what has transpired between you both is not in a place where she feels comfortable just hanging out. So this maybe is some of the only ways to connect with you and you end up throwing it back up badlyok like you said though she has to take that first step so she can either say she was right or its not that bad
- what?
- Your starting to make this a debate/fight. Just shut up and take it in. Fuck!like you mentioned do something about it don't keep using an excuse of well I can't go see mom or meet her somewhere because this may happen or that may happen.
- oh ok see this is one sighted, you can tell me how uncomfortable she is telling you her reason she won't do anything but I can't defend myself and say she hasn't tried.
- okay I can shut the fuck up and listen just wish I could get the same on my end
- I have a doctors appointment so I will have to leave in like 5 min.
- all I get from you is the things I need to do Sabrina, I do them maybe I don't give you an update when I do but I do.
no you keep accusing me of siding with Alecia when things don't work. It's NOT my problem and you keep making it my problem. I can listen and do suggestions...., just like any friend would do but it doesn't solve the issue and you take it out on me when nothing works, you need to just let it alone. Don't give up completely but stop worrying and bitching about it ALL the time. Let things alone and MAYBE (emphasis on the word MAYBE) something will start happeningthe reason I feel that way is only because when you tell me how she feels about things you make it seem like its ok, and when I do the things you mentioned and try harder I don't get any support, or that is how it seems to meyou can't force the more you force the quicker you push awayyep and at the same time vice versa, you feel like well just forget it.Your going to keep on and fucking piss me off and hurt our relationship when it should have never been affected by all this in the first place. Your looking at this as only we resolve this or she has disowned us. It's not that black and white. You need to let go and stop looking at it so detrimental. Your making Alecia and Tiffany's relationship and Alecia and my relationship your issue and problemthey are separate from you and you need not worry about them. I know you feel you should, but your taking on problems that are not yours and making problems out of nothing because you want some kind of justification.- Ok well, there you have it. I swear sometimes we could give the Kardashians a run for there money. Or at least make an equally interesting reality show!